Steph and Josh talk about Erin M Evan’s Empire of Exiles. In this book changlings and intrigue haunt a small country of refugees, and magic users must resist the allure of spiraling and letting their element completely take them over.

Your hosts are Josh MacDougall (FourofFiveWits), Christina Ladd (christinaladd), and Steph Kingston (StephOKingston) and you can find us all on Bluesky. Our art is by Mangoyu Art (@MangoyuArt) and our music is by Bad Sparrow (@BadSparrowMusic). You can find us on BlueSky @NoPageUnturned and Instagram @NoPagePodcast